The (un)intentionally offensive Indian? - A Romantic Realist

The (un)intentionally offensive Indian?

Raju Narisetti - Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:19 PM

There has been a lot of renewed debate in India this past week about Muslims, Hindus, Pakistanis, “true” Muslims, Jews, Americans and Islamists, as India and Indians come to terms with the terrorist attacks in Mumbai. It is only natural that issues of race, religion, ethnicity and skin-color, all of which are deeply rooted in the Indian psyche, bubble up to the surface at difficult and emotional times like this.

But two disparate “conversations” this past week also brought home to the Romantic Realist how even the most well meaning--and often highly educated--people speak and act, out of maybe ignorance or sheer hubris, in ways that are troubling, to say the least. 

 

Specimen 1: Just days after the terrorists struck and fingers started pointing to Pakistan’s involvement, a childhood friend from Chennai, prone to sending group emails about jokes or very weighty issues such as national security, sent a missive that was essentially a thought provoking article written by Mohsin Hamid, the Pakistani British author of The Reluctant Fundamentalist, which had appeared in the UK's Guardian and carried by several other papers including the Dawn. Hamid’s piece was an eloquent appeal to not look at each other in “divisive anger” but realize that India and Pakistan are actually united in a “shared sorrow” and their efforts to fight extremism will "founder if fought alone." (Read Hamid's essay here)

 

There was just one problem with the email. This friend, an IIM Bangalore alumna who is in the people business, having run a very successful Chennai-based recruiting firm, and has among the sweetest dispositions of any of my small circle of friends, titled the email: “India and Pakistan are bound by sorrows - A Paki view” And she lost me. Rather than ruminate over Hamid’s intelligent essay, my troubled mind went off on a tangent, pondering issues that have now culminated in this blog post.  For those of you—like my friend, I suspect there will be a few if not a lot of you—wondering what the fuss is all about, here is what the style book of SAJA (the New York-based South Asian Journalists Association) says about “Paki” in what is an attempt by the largely Indian group to educate the West about what not to call the people of Pakistan:  Paki-- A derogatory slang word for people of Pakistani origin. Is the South Asian equivalent of "Jap" or the "N word." Do not use under any circumstances. If you are quoting someone saying this, be sure to treat the word with the same caution you would treat "Jap." Used often in England as a racial epithet against South Asians in general (especially by skinheads). From LondonSlang.com: "paki - a derogatory term used to describe anyone who looks vaguely Asian even though it is an abbreviation for Pakistani." Some people mistakenly use it as a shorthand way of saying "Pakistani." Egregious Examples: A headline in the New York Post (June 17, 1999): "India: Pakis Killed POWs." President George W. Bush at a press conference (Jan. 7, 2002): "And we are working hard to convince both the Indians and the Pakis there's a way to deal with their problems without going to war." The official White House reaction within hours: "The president has great respect for Pakistan, the Pakistani people, and the Pakistani culture. Pakistan has been a strong member of the international coalition in the war against terrorism and that he meant no disrespect with the word."  

 

You can also read the Wiki entry on “Paki” here.  

 

 

Specimen 2: A senior executive of Ranbaxy Laboratories Ltd, the large Indian drug company that is now majority owned by Japan’s Daiichi Sankyo Co, is introduced to me at the Clinton Global Initiative’s Asia meeting this past week. He is someone I have exchanged emails with in my nearly three years in India but had never met. As we exchange business cards, I make small talk noting that I am surprised even the card hasn’t changed since the November completion of the $4.3 billion acquisition by Daiichi. His response: “Raju, you know the Japs. The Japs don’t do anything quickly.” Then he went on to explain it is mostly business as usual at Ranbaxy anyway under the new owners.

The rest of the conversation, him nursing a whisky and soda, and me sipping a glass of bubbly, is a bit of a blur because I kept thinking that while Daiichi may own Ranbaxy, it has a long, long, long way to go to before changing hearts, and thoughts and stereotypes at its Indian entity. By the way, “practice dignity” is still one of Ranbaxy’s 7 core corporate Values

Again, for those of you wondering what the fuss is all about, here is what Wikipedia has to say about the use of Jap(s): 

“Jap is an English abbreviation of the word Japanese. Today it is regarded as an ethnic slur, though English-speaking countries differ in the degree they consider the term offensive… In the past, Jap was not considered primarily offensive; however, after the events of World War II, the term became derogatory.” 

 

(Read the fully Wikipedia entry here or the other problematic use of the word, this time involving Jewish-American women here)

 

In India, it is somewhat fashionable, at least among intellectuals, to quickly agree that Indians are racists and but then go to explain at great length why certain acts that seem overtly racist to non-Indians are really, really not so. Such conversations happen frequently for this Romantic Realist, who can claim some personal experience with matters involving race, about small and big acts of racism in India, often as attempts at explaining away this behavior as anything but racist.  One only has to read Vir Sanghvi’s argument along these lines, made in his Pursuits column for Mint’s weekend magazine Lounge, following the Australia-India cricket controversy involving Harbajan Singh and Andrew Symonds about the use of monkey and monkey man, to realize how widespread this view is.(Read that particular column here)

 

I am not saying India is either more or less racist than many countries, including the two I have lived in for many years. That some Blacks feel free to use nigger for one another or that second or third-generation British Pakistanis have reclaimed Paki doesn't make such words acceptable for others to use them so blithely.

 

So, this week’s two “conversations” remind me why those in Indian glass houses ought not to throw stones with the practiced ease with which they often do when it comes to race, ethnicity and religion. And, when it comes to racism and ethnic slurs, ignorance isn’t a convenient back door to this house they choose to live in.

 

 

Ps: By way of full disclosure, I am a life member of SAJA.
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From K. Srikrishna

December 4, 2008 2:51 PM
Dear Raju, Nice post - having spent a little over 20 years on the West Coast (Berkeley & Silicon Valley) I have struggled with this one, as family members or some times employees have used the word Japs (and at one point some 60% of our business revenue was from Japan). The struggle was not about incipient racism or insensitivity that are highlighted (which often is the case), as much how do cultural overtones (and gaps) come into play. For instance, even now, when Black is an acceptable term - my eight and ten year old keep correcting whoever utters this to say African American (for instance, "Honey, Obama is the first black President"). This is no way to state Paki or Jap (or pappan or thulukan - two favored tamil epithets, neither of which were pejorative in the original) are okay, but I wonder if America (or Wikipedia) always determines what is racist/PC and what local cultures and sensibilities play into it (my 80 year old dad still probably uses the word Negro assuming its proper term to use). Yours still wondering, srikrishna

From Subrat

December 4, 2008 3:16 PM
Dear Raju, I have been in similar conversations in the past and along with others, I have wondered why/how US determines political correctness for the rest of the world. The one that comes to my mind is the use of the term 'oriental'. A lot of my US friends were offended when someone in the group used it since they thought 'oriental' offensive (except when used in the context of rugs). I found it quite amusing when you look at the history of the word 'Orient'. In fact, Said's seminal book was called Orientalism. But such nuances or appreciation was lost to that lot. It was all about how can you be a global citizen and use 'oriental' for a person. Since I travel outside of India quite often, I have to come appreciate some of these issues but I find nothing wrong with anyone using these terms when their intent isn't to offend. And I find it amusing that we don't find anything wrong when a lot of visitors from the US to our offices do things which could offend a few of us

From Raju Narisetti

December 4, 2008 4:06 PM

Srikrishna/Subrat--My personal test is usually whether the object of the word/phrase would find it offensive and to pick what seem to be plenty of perfectly acceptable (for all) alternatives. If America dictated political correctness all the time, I wonder if "Paki" would have become a problem since it is mostly a UK issue (and Bush and White House would perhaps have continued using it?)

And Subrat--you might be very hard pressed to perhaps call a black person nigger even in the Indian context and then turn around say there is "nothing wrong with anyone using these terms when their intent isn't to offend"? And taking the high road when you find unacceptable behavior because it is from say an American visitor to your office seems equally a problem since you clearly find the actions offensive and remember them! Perhaps you could use the opportunity to educate someone who might be doing it out of ignorance..you know, the (un)intentionally offensive American!

From vivek sharma

December 4, 2008 4:09 PM
My father is 70 and he raised me to be respectful of all people. And while I understand the J, P and N words and they are not part of my lexicon, he still uses the N word in the most innocent way possible. Sometimes I wonder if people like us are thrusting our sensibilities on to the more 'unconditioned' set in our midst. For instance, an American friend saw so many young men in India hold hands on the road and wrap a hand around their friend's shoulder; he had to ask me if they were all gay! I'm sure the thought would never have crossed the minds of those young men on the street and chances are (given the Indian homo phobic realities) if they discovered the 'meaning' of their friendly gestures they'd be embarrassed. I'm still not sure. Should one say that in an increasingly homogenous world where mobility is certain, its time to agree to to a 'standard' because it serves as a shortcut to understanding and it is helpful when we assess and decode people we meet or should one let this be and smile at the innocence? Being politically correct, English speaking, educated and well turned out does not necessarily mean one is respectful of diversity. Case in point: Simi Garewal in the We The People show on NDTV following the Mumbai mayhem. I usually tend to look at intent. I'd say it has to be age specific, I'll smile at an older generation but certainly draw attention to the point for correction if someone in his 20's said the same. By the same count, your IIM friend and the Ranbaxy gentleman need a crash course. They should know better!

From Shruti Sharma

December 4, 2008 4:28 PM
Hi Raju Hmmm...while I generally agree with what you're said, I also think that one can choose to be as sensitive or as cool as one likes. What is a `slur' in one culture is pretty normal in another. I constantly refer to my Pakistani friends as Pakis, and various Indian friends as Bongs, Mallus and Surds...and am quite happy to be called a Panju. It's just verbal shorthand and I'm not sure we need to be aghast if another Indian refers to Japanese as Japs - do not need to have the same cultural reference points as the Americans!

From V.B.N.Ram

December 4, 2008 5:54 PM
Comparisions between the haves and have nots, the economically better off states in contrast to their poorer counterparts, the extent of revenue contribution by the states to the centre and vice versa , comparisions of the income per capita between states, are all factors which pose a challenge to the egalitarian constitutional guarantees contained in the Indian Constitution. As if all this was not bad enough vote bank politics based on the basis of caste, colour and creed have eroded the Indian fabric. When I sold my bigger car and replaced the same with a smaller one, my neighbour remarked " Oh, the car you own suits your style, my big car causes traffic snarls, and is a crowd puller, I also would like to change over to a smaller one. " What prevents you ? I asked " Replied the fancy car owner " a driver driven small car would be incompatible with my status.

From Salauddeen

December 5, 2008 6:16 AM
Yeah, right! I should care if a honky calls me a wog! Has Raju got a peanut for a brain?

From Gopi

December 5, 2008 7:14 AM
Raju, Seems like you ran out of some serious and relevant topics to write about at this time.

From V.B.N.Ram

December 5, 2008 8:03 AM
As I see it, while India is a kaleidoscope of cultural intermix and its ethos, ought to represent, in the words of Jawhar Lal Nehru " unity in diversity " : I am unable to decide, whether such diversity, is infact a trigger to separatism or fosters unity. After the scourge of terrorism, separatism to me is the single biggest challenge to the Indian State. Hence, Raju, has addressed the single biggest bug bear being faced by India

From Raju

December 5, 2008 10:00 AM
Hi Raju, Ignorance is no excuse, but then hyping up an inadvertent error to make it sound as if all Indians are essentially racist is not a great idea either. Perhaps if you had spent 2 minutes with either of your friends explaining, rather than fulminating in an article now, the issue would have been resolved for two individuals at-least! Your ranting sounds more like -" I know what is politically correct, but look at these educated guys, they don't, so I'm way better than them!" -Bala

From Abhinav

December 5, 2008 10:54 AM
Hey Guys.... Raju is an American Citizen!

From Vikas

December 6, 2008 11:26 AM
Too much fuss over a small issue. Ignorance is no excuse but then how do you explain that to a 'non-global' citizen. I knew about the P and N words, but not about the J word till I read this piece. To the uninitiated Jap might actually sound a cool way of addressing the Japanese. I think you should take it easy. These were private conversations intended only for you. I am sure if they had an intention of publishing these they would have been more careful. In any case does someone saying Pakistani &#@$&$$#@ sound any better than Paki? It is the intent behind your statement that matters, isn't it? Of course, it would help to know better and be careful.

From Famous Grouse

December 8, 2008 10:49 AM
I recollect the fiesty Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir stating that 'Poles get their anti-semitism with their mother's milk'. What a statement. I wonder where Indians get their rage from. We have an issue against Madrasis, Bawas, Chinks, basically anyone who does not have the same color, speak the same language and eat the same food.

From Lionel

December 11, 2008 7:30 PM
As someone who grew up in India I am surprised at the vehemence of your reaction to your friend's use of the word "Paki". Perhaps, your years in the US and Europe have accorded a reflex that - rightly - militates against its use. But as you ought to know, its connotations to Indians in India is far from the derogatory tone it has in the West. Despite 24 years in the US, I still revert to Paki when in India particularly when among friends discussing cricket between the two nations. Does that make either me or my friends insensitive or even racists? I have more than a couple of Pakistani friends in the US and the years have equipped me equally with a reflex that precludes the use of Paki in their midst or even otherwise.

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