Blurring the Lines of Control - Still single in the city

Blurring the Lines of Control

Sushmita Bose - Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:11 PM

I happened to read a story by Sharmishta Koushik in The Times of India today: on Pakistani women who married Indian men, and the kind of problems they face at times even as they try and integrate with mainstream society. ‘You Look Like One Of Us' said the headline, while the strapline announced "Pakistani women married to Indians find barely disguised social mistrust here, though they share common cultural roots with the country". Intrigued, I clicked on the ePaper and read the entire story.

Definitely not the stuff that went into the making of Veer-Zaara (in the movie, even though the Pakistani state and the judicial system were villains, relatives, friends and an unknown lawyer came to the rescue of the lovers finally).

The Times of India story talks about how as "Pakistanis married to Indians, they [the women] had to tread carefully even before the Mumbai attacks. The married Indian woman typically tries to adjust to her husband's family, but women like Shazman [one of the women quoted in the story] have had to blend into an entire nation. That too, a nation that has had an uneasy relationship with the country of their birth."

Right after the Mumbai terror attack last month, one of the Pakistani women, for instance, was extremely frightened, and was talking about all the time. Her husband "felt I should change the subject. He advised me to avoid such discussions on the phone, and better still, to avoid calls from Karachi to ensure that I don't get sucked into a political mess," she recounts.

Another Pakistani woman (again, married to an Indian) Zainab "recalls watching the television news about Delhi's September 13 blasts with her family. Her father-in-law turned to her husband and said, ‘Look what these people do. You get upset when I blame Pakistanis but look at what they do.' The result: Upset at the implied insult to his wife's countrymen, Zainab's husband refused to speak to his father for a week."

We've all come across this ‘Us and Them' phenomenon. At times, the Indians-Pakistanis banter is light-hearted. Most times, it's nasty. I remember one of my family friends - who owned a couple of apartments in Delhi, and gave them out on rent mostly to expats -- proclaiming very loudly at a Diwali dinner how he would never, ever have a Pakistani tenant. I asked him what if these hypothetical Pakistanis happened to be people "just like us". "How can they ever be like us?" he ranted. Thankfully, the matter ended right there: the subject was changed with someone else piping up, "Let's not spoil Diwali by talking about Pakistanis."

When I lived and worked in Delhi, there were friends and colleagues who had travelled to Pakistan. Most said that there was a great deal of large-heartedness on the other side of the border; a lot of invitations to "have a meal at home" would come their way; and the moment people in Pakistan figured out that one was from India, the hospitality seemed to step up in display and depth.

The first Pakistani I personally made friends with was Barbara Breheret. She is a French Tourism official, who married a Frenchman, and is settled in the lovely skiing resort of Chamonix, wedged in the middle of the Alpine valley. She was a Pakistani Christian - but a Pakistani nonetheless - and I felt that I'd known her for ages. Whenever she spoke about Karachi and her life there, it felt so much like India: the madness, the chaos - and, of course, the warmth, and the goodness and the closeness.

I've been working in Dubai for just about three months now - and one of the best things that has happened to me here has been the multi-cultural crossing of paths. Every day, I bump into people from all over the world - and a great many of them are from across the Line of Control.

The setting is a tad different, so it's not the same as someone meeting Pakistanis in their own country and being meted out generous doses of hospitality. I am getting to know people who, like me, are displaced. They don't have the comfort of home and hearth, and that's probably why they defy all notions stereotypes -- wrong, right or half-baked.

Many of my Pakistani friends are single in the city, and we don't even thrash out a common agenda when we hang out: it comes so naturally and takes such a logical course. There are the same concerns (diets, family, friends, career choices, marriage, etc), the same frustrations (from why is there a market meltdown to why is it that we can't wake up early enough to go to the gym), the same set of needs (the most acute one: it's a lonely city - and at the end of the day, we really need a hug) and even the same table-top menu! Everybody balks at the idea of cooking, more so if you are living alone, but there are times without number when I go to a supermarket with a Pakistani friend, and we end up buying exactly the same food for dinner.

Most significantly, when 26/11 happened, EVERYONE from both sides of the border was horrified. There was no finger-pointing, no raging debates, only a lot of genuine anger - and grief -- at the perversity of it all.

I guess a lot of it has to do with the fact that we are occupying neutral grounds in Dubai. When you don't occupy either side of the Line of Control, there's not even an iota of struggle about having to cut across established identities.

Friendships, unlike nations, are borderless.

 

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From Simer

December 21, 2008 9:48 PM
I agree with you Sushmita that friends have no borders... On the contrary how do we get answers for incidents like 13/9 & 26/11 ?

From SHRAVAN

December 22, 2008 12:07 PM
yo sush ! thats the spirit i sometimes seriously feel pakistanm is just india by another name by the way since ive suscribed to ur rss wot is it actually?

From sushmita

December 22, 2008 2:32 PM
simer, that's the paradox, i guess. it's a bit like asking what was indian intelligence -- specifically entrusted to take care of national security -- doing after having gotten repeated warnings to thwart the terror strikes. a lot of pakistanis are just as pissed off with politicians and the state of affairs back home as we are. shravan, you want to know what my RSS is? i really have no idea :) I'm tech challenged! But i can find out!

From SUBRATO DUTTA

December 22, 2008 4:03 PM
Sushmita, I agree with u about the last line

From sushmita

December 22, 2008 4:38 PM
subrato: abt me being tech-challenged (my last comment), or abt friendships being borderless?

From shipra

December 22, 2008 5:25 PM
same comments are passed out at home and in family discussions. And the most frustrating thing is, its not just about pakistanis but muslims in general. I'm usually in a fix as i have many muslim fiends and i can hardly find any difference of opinions with them. But then again we do find incidences of older muslims who are a little more inclined towards supporting Pakistan in matters and sports. It gets pretty confusing as the younger generation is not at all concerned about what has happened in the past and the kashmir issue, while making aquantainces or friends. want an example - just check out the online communities. Most of my friends are fond of a Pakistani music site Songs.pk . Its mind bogglingly preposterous once you start thinking abt it.

From Aniruddha Dasgupta

December 22, 2008 6:00 PM
Dear Sushmita, It is quite sad to see your blog turn into one of those political forums where we are discussing India-Pakistan, Hindu-Muslim topics. Unfortunately none of us are really qualified or well read on these topics to even supply any personal comments on such issues. Please write on something that we can really relate to and enjoy - like your Single in the City adventures or misadventures. I am sure there are hundreds of political journos out there who are already busy justifying our "Love Thy Neighbour" philosophy.

From Simer

December 22, 2008 7:26 PM
@ Aniruddha: Beautifully stated my friend.. agree to the core, we ain't be discussing the political crap out here as there are many others doing justice to it. @ Sushmita: Understand the intelligence piece, but need to understand "their" minds who can think of doing the horrifying 13/9's & 26/11's.

From sushmita

December 22, 2008 8:21 PM
Dear Aniruddha, I know exactly what you mean. However, in this case, it's not really a love thy neighbour discourse -- it's about how being friends with people across the border is a part of everyday life, and something you slip into without even realising it. Believe me, there's nothing political about this; in fact, it's a lot of fun. This site probably turned into a sort of forum when the Mumbai attacks happened -- and that was because I didn't want to write 'fun' pieces at a time when everybody's minds were occupied with graver national interests. And Simer: barbarism and perversity exists in every part of the world, and in all sections of society. Look at what was happening in Chattisgarh: would it be fair to regard all Hindus as fundamentalist? Of course not. It's only the fringe elements -- or the lunatic fringe as they call it.

From Akansha

December 22, 2008 8:42 PM
We need a reality check from time to time. I agree with Sush. I mean its nice to have an informal forum to discuss things that are happening to us and affecting us deeply, as long as we can have fun and enjoy ourselves too.

From Aniruddha Dasgupta

December 22, 2008 9:27 PM
Dear Sushmita, Please believe me that I had no intention in hurting your sentiments. It is only that everyday we get to read such lovely stories about friendship without borders. We know that at the end of the day all we worry about, whether Indian or Pakistani or Bangladeshi, is to how to feed our families, to see our children grow up in a society full of love, security and friendship. It is only when you see people being killed, maimed or simply blown up in pieces in the name of religion that these 'friendship stories' start to sound like a cruel joke. What is even more unfortunate is that we have become so immune to such heinous acts that all we do after such barbaric acts of terrorism is pick up our fancy mobiles and call our friends & family and say "Oh cool!! So you are alive!! Me too!! Good!! Meet you at Barista for the morning coffee and then we can ride together to office". Trust me I have been very fortunate to travel and live briefly in various parts of this world (US, Europe, Asia)and meet my 'brothers and sisters' on both sides of the fence wherever I went. I have seen Hate Articles against Indians posted at my US University Notice Boards. I have seen how they teach in Bangladeshi Schools that the 1971 war was a Bangladeshi struggle against Indian (Hindu Zionists) Occupation. I know I could just go on but it would not be fair to you or your article. I just wish I had a 'Beautiful Mind' just like the people who write such beautiful Friendship Articles and simply ignore all the reality that unfolds in front of us every single day - well as always "Ignorance is Bliss". God Bless India.

From pawandeep

December 22, 2008 9:35 PM
I know that Sushmita can write 'fun' pieces very well, and it is becuase of that only that we like her so much. But friends, mumbai attacks have changed the general mood so much and because of this blog , we too find an opportunity to express our views and displeasure about those attacks. So I think , those single adventures/misadventures can be put on hold for a while, till we find some solution to the current scenerio(You all know, there are reports of Indian preparing about some sort of strikes on POK)

From sushmita

December 22, 2008 11:53 PM
Dear Aniruddha: You haven’t hurt my sentiments in any way – like I told you, I know exactly what you mean. But I don’t think I was sharing anything complicated or twisted liked diplomatic ties and intelligence failures – what I experienced or am experiencing, is part of a very humdrum and, at times, lonely existence. There is no political insight whatsoever. Sure, I know again what you mean when you write about the notice boards and the school syllabus. But there are also truths that run much deeper – and that are totally different from – than what they put up on notice boards at the US university you went to, and what they teach in Bangladeshi schools. And mind you, I think I am a fairly cynical person: I’m not somebody who sees a silver lining in every dark cloud. Today evening, for instance, a Pakistani friend came and told me that she’s getting calls from her family back home that there is an Indian offensive being feared and that the whole country is on the edge. I called up a friend in India to get an update, and he confirmed that war rhetoric has, indeed, been scaled up. What struck me was that me and my Pakistani friend had an extremely objective discussion about the situation – and then we went to the supermarket together to get daily provisions for tomorrow. I don’t want to sit on judgement as to whatever is happening between the two countries is good, bad or ugly: history is going to chronicle that. I can only speak for myself.

From Paramjit Singh

December 23, 2008 10:04 AM
Just this morning I bumped into your blog info in Mint. Can't tell you how delighted I was to read your article after a long gap from the days of HT Sunday!! Just a small submission, violence can never solve terrorism, war is violent. With utmost regard to people who lost their dear ones on 26/11, the scars are for life but am sure, they wouldn't want to create so many like them, by their leaders. Without being judgemental, wars in the history never "solved" anything. However, we must also resolve not be soft targets for all and sundry, this menace needs to be checked and I wish I have the answer how? :)

From anilata

December 23, 2008 11:45 AM
One of our news channels conducted some thing like a sting operation in one of the VIP trains to check the security arrangements in the wake of the Mumbai attacks and found that there was no proper system in place to check any untoward incident. They could easily carry some weapons with them to the desired destination and back without being checked even once. At one of the stations metal detectors were there but they were not working. If some terrorists were travelling in their place, what would have happened, it is anybody's guess. This is the sorry state of affairs. God save the country.

From Subrato

December 23, 2008 3:52 PM
Sushmita it is --- Friendships unlike nations are borderless

From sushmita

December 23, 2008 6:15 PM
paramjit: welcome back to the fold!

From SHRAVAN

December 24, 2008 9:30 AM
YO SUSH! MERRY CHRISTMAS

From Raghavendra Kumar

December 24, 2008 11:16 AM
It is a few anti-social elements called terrorists who are spoiling the peace process and ensuring that the divide between India and Pakistan continues. Free movement across the border and friendly neighbourhood relations doesn't augur well for terrorists. It is time for Indian and Pakistani governments to understand the need to eliminate these anti-social elements and continue the peace process. Only friendly relations will lead to peace in the sub-continent.

From sushmita

December 24, 2008 2:21 PM
Shravan, and Everyone Else: Merry Christmas! I'll miss Delhi very much at this time of the year...

From Anand

December 24, 2008 2:27 PM
@Paramjit Singh: You stated "wars in the history never "solved" anything." I guess you don't have a single solitary clue about history to make such a statement. Remember WW2? It SOLVED the Nazi problem. If USA had sat back and said that war would not solve anything and instead they had sent a dozen roses to Hitler, then we would all probably be speaking German by now. Even in Hindu mythology/history - the war of Mahabharata solved the problem and replaced the bad guys with the good ones. Note that I am not advocating war with Pakistan. But at the same time to take war off the table is stupidity. Threat of war is a diplomatic weapon we have which we must use to get what we need (which btw is for Pakistan to dismantle its terrorist infrastructure & support).

From Anand

December 24, 2008 2:34 PM
@Raghavendra Kumar: Let us Indians all be clear: it is NOT a "few" anti-social elements or fringe liners who are spoiling the so-called peace process. It consists of large vested interests within the Govt. Of Pakistan which includes the ISI, Army, Navy and other divisions. These are hardliners who want India to burn - even if it destroys Pakistan in the process. These people are actively sponsoring terrorism in India. More than 35000 people have died in Kashmir due to terrorists over the last 15 years and now the war has come to the cities. We - the people of India - need to stop having pipe dreams. We need to stop being afraid, stop being naive and we need to wake up and take a stand.

From Lucky

December 24, 2008 5:20 PM
MERRY CHRISTMAS every body

From Lucky

December 24, 2008 5:36 PM
hey sush u doin a great job m missed ur blog a lot last month but now am back

From sushmita

December 24, 2008 6:40 PM
Anand: Yes, Krishna did happen to tell Arjuna "yudh kar"... And finally good triumphed over bad/evil, thanks to war and decisive action. But we live in real timnes, and we have come a long way since WW-II... India and Pakistan are both nuclear states now. What happened in Kashmir and what happened in Mumbai are tiny fragments of the horrific canvas that could be a reality if full-fledged war breaks out, God forbid. Look what happened in Iraq just because President Bush suspected the country was harbouring weapons of mass destruction. Is this what we want? We have to be more civilised about the whole thing. There has to be convergence and cooperation, else there will only be more attacks and more blasts and more killings. We'll probably be saying that "yes, we can and we did", but there will be nothing to left to fight for. Let's fight for peace and for our lives. Please do read Ramachandra Guha's piece that appeared in the Lounge section of Mint last Saturday (20 December). This is the link: http://www.livemint.com/2008/12/19225212/India8217s-dangerous-divide.html

From sushmita

December 24, 2008 6:41 PM
Anand and everyone else: again, Merry Christmas and peace on earth.

From Ashish Bose

December 24, 2008 10:47 PM
"Merry Chistmas" to all the 'singles' & 'doubles' in the city.May peace prevail in the region.

From Aniruddha Dasgupta

December 25, 2008 12:42 AM
I can not help but totally agree with you Sushmita on the last comment left by you. We have read about wars being fought to remove the bad guys and bring in the good guys. But wars are fought with solid strategy and not just for the sake of it. Even history proves that. George Bush senior could have tried and removed Saddam in the 1st Gulf war but he was smart and had good advisors. He knew that it would only lead to a situation where Iraq would go into absolute chaos without any solid leadership. Simply put, he just did not see a leader who could keep the Shias and the Sunnis from getting at each others throats and end in an uncontrollable ethnic war, something not even the mighty Americans could have contained. We have the proof now, thanks to his son. Same with Pakistan. It just does not have the cohesiveness as a united muslim country. It has the second largest muslim population in the world and incidently also the second largest Shia population after Iran. Being a Saudi backed Sunni majority country and also having such a huge Iran backed Shia population, it certainly does not make a very cordial atmosphere where the communities have been so hateful of each other since the death of the Prophet. With the Pakistani Civilian rulers having proved time and again what a bunch of impotent, power hungry & greedy jokers they are, it is only the Pakistan armed forces that can keep some level of peace in Pakistan. Weaken them and you have the perfect situation for an uncontrollable internal Shia Sunni conflict that would only spill over into India. And then, with the current world financial situation, if we go to war at this moment all our development that was achieved in the last decade will be wiped out and we will be left with a completely destroyed economy. We should be rather focussing on our own internal security problems and try to plug the loopholes in our intelligence system. Let the Pakistanis dig their own graves.

From Anand

December 25, 2008 8:22 AM
@All: Yes indeed - I Wish You All a Merry Christmas and Happy 2009! I think my point was not clear. As stated previously, I am NOT advocating war with Pakistan right now. BUT, but, but - we should NOT automatically rule this out. We - the citizens of this country - cannot be telling our Government and the people of the world that we will not go to war under any circumstance! Threat of War is a HUGE weapon we have which we must use to our advantage. Our military is the the 3rd biggest in the world and we are spending billions of dollars each year on this force. If we cannot use such an extra-ordinary weapon to our diplomatic advantage then we are being stupid. As citizens, we cannot keep acting afraid of how Pakistan may retaliate and how it might kill our people or destroy our cities. We must keep our threat of war on the table. One building was destroyed in US and they had 2 wars (right or wrong). We have 35000+ people killed over decades and we still want to sit back and do nothing.

From Hareesh Unnikrishnan

December 25, 2008 9:35 AM
Anirudhha dude,, dont you ever go to sleep?!! :) Dear Sush nd every1 else.. Wish you a Merry Christmas!! Like my friendly neighbourhood "Sumo" driver mentioned... "Sirji, yeh sif 'meri' christmans nahi hai.. yeh sabki hai!!"

From sahil verma

December 25, 2008 2:14 PM
Merry Christmas everyone. I was out of town, returned to Delhi today and the first thing I did was check out this blog. Good show again! It is nice to come back to so much of healthy debate, and I feel that I am part of a community now.

From sushmita

December 25, 2008 2:24 PM
Anand: It's so unfortunate that the Pakistani establishment is completely at sixes and sevens. There is not even a semblance of cohesiveness in their strategy, and nobody has a clue as to who is up to what evil machination. The army, the civilian government and the ISI are all doing their own stuff. It's seriously scary. The madcaps there -- at whose behest terrorism is thriving -- don't give a damn about the threat of war and the fact that thousands of their own people could be killed. Honestly, how does one deal with the situation? Hareesh: I loved your Sumo driver's Christmas wishes! Pawandeep: you've been very quiet, all well? And Aniruddha: I don;t know why you ever said that you aren't equipped to conduct arguments on affairs of state! Well done!

From Paramjit Singh

December 25, 2008 7:56 PM
@Anand and All:“When did the future switch from being a promise to being a threat?” (by Chuck Palahniuk, American freelance Journalist, Satirist and Novelist). We may not be living in the world of offering another cheek to be slapped after being slapped on one, but we can surely keep our tempres controlled. We have to exercise deep restraint if we know that we are being provoked. We have to resist that provocation. If we go to war, how do we know that we could be doing exactly what they wanted to get; more dollars from the world to support them against us. However, I agree with Anand's last sentence of last post, we can't be sitting back and doing nothing. Question is, WHAT???

From Anand

December 25, 2008 8:33 PM
What do we do? Not an easy question at all. Externally, show some courage, stop begging other countries for help and instead send black ops to Pakistan to either assasinate the leaders of these terrorist groups. Force Pakistan Government to take action against terrorist training camps. Internally, we need to drastically improve our internal security. Create the NIA, empower it and coordinate intelligence between states. Create massive infrastructure projects to provide water, power, roads, telephones, etc so that people in villages don't become naxalites. Create food security so that we can atleast feed our people without buying wheat from outside (extremely important if we end up in a war where supply lines will be cut first). There is no dearth of things to do. We must force our govt. to do these things and not to sit back and discuss things in parliament endlessly. This is the time for visible action by our executive branch and not for empty words by our legislature.

From ani lata

December 26, 2008 1:57 PM
sb dear, Happy Happy Happy New Year. May this new year bring a lot of joy & prosperity to u & everybody else. May this new yr bring peace and harmony in the world.

From pawandeep

December 27, 2008 10:40 AM
Yes, Sushmita I was a bit down with Viral. But now Ok , and thanks for remembering. As I couldn't read KT yesterday, I was quite anxious to read your column there. So I just logged on, and on search put the name "Sushmita". And came the reply..."Sush finally meets her match" - For a second I just thought my words have come true ( You remember once you mentioned about time in your artilce ...and I replied that who knows, time can come....when this column maybe renamed "Now Couple in the city" instead of "Still Single in the city".) But actually it is an artile on Sushmita Sen. But I am sure, the way this blog is getting response, our dear Sushmita Bose is even more known personality than sushmita sen. Wishing you all a very happy and prosperous New Year (2009)

From Simer

December 28, 2008 7:25 PM
@ Pawandeep - like the light hearted comment amidst the tough political discussions dude.. cheers

From Salauddeen

December 30, 2008 8:53 AM
Extract from http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Pakistani_textbooks_build_hate_culture_against_India/articleshow/3898659.cms Pak textbooks build hate culture against India 27 Dec 2008, 0239 hrs IST, ARIF MOHAMMED KHAN On Indo-Pak wars, the books give detailed descriptions and openly eulogize ‘jihad' and ‘shahadat' and urge students to become ‘mujahids' and martyrs and leave no room for future friendship and cordial relations with India. According to a Class 5 book, "In 1965, the Pakistani army conquered several areas of India, and when India was on the point of being defeated, she requested the United Nations to arrange a ceasefire. After 1965, India, with the help of Hindus living in East Pakistan, instigated the people living there against the people of West Pakistan, and finally invaded East Pakistan in December 1971. The conspiracy resulted in the separation of East Pakistan from us. All of us should receive military training and be prepared to fight the enemy." The book prescribed for higher secondary students makes no mention of the uprising in East Pakistan in 1971 or the surrender by more than 90,000 Pakistani soldiers. Instead, it claims, "In the 1971 India-Pakistan war, the Pakistan armed forces created new records of bravery and the Indian forces were defeated everywhere." The students of Class 3 are taught that "Muhammad Ali (Jinnah) felt that Hindus wanted to make Muslims their slaves and since he hated slavery, he left the Congress". At another place it says, "The Congress was actually a party of Hindus. Muslims felt that after getting freedom, Hindus would make them their slaves." And this great historic discovery is taught to Std V students, "Previously, India was part of Pakistan."

From sushmita

December 31, 2008 1:06 PM
It's a pity that these things are happening -- which is why it is more important now than ever before to set the record straight. But war is not the answer: dialogue and communication is the key. Thanks Salauddeen for this putting this on the blog: very informative.

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