Girls Evening Out at the T20 Finals

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SHAKESPEARE — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:44:28 GMT

ANAGRAM of M's fav. phrase - "I am not the one who.." = A non-white to home

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sri — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:28:42 GMT

Rakesh... Kya kar raha hai dost...!!! If your wife reads this you are dead :p

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Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:57:48 GMT

Do you want to two time on your wife or do you just want a girl friend ? There is a difference between a girlfriend and a girl friend . Or are you just a troll ?

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rakesh — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:24:37 GMT

I am not so sure about being an 'ideal indian male',but yes i am ur fan.coz in my view an ideal indian male is not mature enough.for example,i am 43 yrs old and while living,as a forced bachelor in delhi,am looking out for a girlfriend.a friend of mine said earnstly that i am doing something against great indian ethos and that its not what an ideal indian male should do.i mean expect to have a girlfriend and being married simultaneously. waiting to see what ppl comment on this.

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Ghumakkad — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:41:10 GMT

I saw this post had 155 comments and I read thru. the post thinking that there must be something very special about this one... ...going thru the comments later on I found that pot had so many comments just coz of "M". whew! what an enthu. cmomentator

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Ghumakkad — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:41:02 GMT

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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:41:51 GMT

Oh I am honoured then to have the ideal Indian man join my fan club .

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rakesh — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:12:19 GMT

M,am not a sushmita fan.However I've become your fan after observing how stoutly you defended your viewpoint.I mean it.This is a very big quality.

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Abhiroop Banerjee — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:24:57 GMT

Fun post! Vintage SITC :)

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:29:34 GMT

Also , when someone has a problem with what you say because you see only see one side of the story , it is because that person has nothing else to do or is insecure yet when you say sing praises about western men when you hardly know them and at the same time criticize men from your own country , it is all fine . You do not need to be a genius to understand what I had a problem with and it was not criticism of how many Indian men were or how India was but the way you did it in that , you sang praises of the white man without being the best person to do that . In short , you praised white men at the expense of Indian men when you hardly know what the true white man is . By the way Sushmita , my sincere advice to you . Do not marry an Indian man or have a relationship with one . Make sure if and when you have a relationship , it is with a white man . After 5-10 years , when you are wiser , do make a comeback and let me see if you still have the same opinion . Now to you Sri , You talk about people raising a hue and cry about racism in Australia when there are many problems in India . I agree that there are problems in India but what are the people who faced racism in some other country supposed to do ? Are they supposed to say , let us stop problems in our country and then let us complain ? Is there a problem if some people in India support them too ? Of course , burning effigies and public property won't change anything but peaceful demonstrations are their choice . Now , if you will excuse me ..

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 07:18:48 GMT

Seriously , I do not understand you guys . When did I say everything was right with India and I agree that India has a lot of problems . Foreigners are targeted in India not because of racism because many men in India have twisted conceptions of white women because of what they see in childish adult films . Oh by the way , the British girl was high on drugs. Of course , that does not justify raping her and I am not one of those guys who think that a girl is begging to be raped in any circumstance . But, don't you think that women have to be careful too who they are with and who they trust ? I have no problem with women drinking too . However, my problem is not with pointing out problems in India. You are free to do that as much you want . I talk about problems with my country too . What I have a problem with is hypocrisy . You talking as if white men are angels when most of you hardly know who the white man is . Stick to the problems India has and don't imply that white men or the white society is better without knowing much about it . By the way , Sushmita ( the wise girl ) , half the Indian women would marry a white man eh ? Do you speak for yourself or all ? lol

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Sun, 05 Jul 2009 06:50:45 GMT

Sushmita , You were just talking about different stereotypes here. What is your point ? Do you agree that men from Delhi are the worst ? To be honest , I do not exactly know what you were trying to say in your last three posts. You in some of your earlier posts have implied that the average Indian man on a whole has a problem but yet did not talk about the negative points of other men maybe because you hardly know about them . So , that does not make it right to just talk about the negative points of Indian men and to talk as if white men were God's gift to mankind without even dating one. I rest my case with you . Do I have to tell you what I had a problem with a million time? Good luck and live in your own world of illusions .

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sushmita — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:11:07 GMT

Sri, you summed it up perfectly. In fact, the reason why anyone could imagine that there was a racist streak to my blog post just goes on to show how we get caught up in a mob frenzy. Deep down we are either insecure or have nothing better to do than jump on to any "Down with so and so" bandwagon. We cannot take anything at face value -- and will invariably find some deep meaning when none exists actually. That explains why crowds gather at a drop of a hat anywhere and everywhere in India, lol! Everyone loves a good conspiracy theory. Most times, there is no conspiracy, but who cares? After going through all the vitriol and the conjectures, I am tempted to think that maybe some people cannot come to terms with the fact that women can go to a bar and talk about men they fancy. And Sri, you are right about us being racist -- and of course, we'll live in denial. At least half our population will gladly marry a 'White' rather than an Indian from a different religion. We call Anglo-Indians in our country "dingos" very openly; we call North Easterners "Chinks"; we call homosexuals "chakkas"; and we call Blacks "kaalus". The Brits may have been colonialists, but when Prince Harry said "Paki" in jest, he had to publicly apologise. Btw, how do you think the international community would have reacted if George W had stamped his foot petulantly and said, "I bombed Iraq... but hey, once upon a time Hitler organised concentration camps... and also, there is genocide happening in Rwanda... So why blame me?"

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sri — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:13:20 GMT

@ Sushmita: Yes i agree with you completely... listing other peoples' shortcomings as a response to our own only pushes us farther from the solution... it's a refusal to face a problem and unwillingness to deal with it. One thing that really drives nuts about our ppl is... 'burning effigies'. I mean how does burning a cardboard picture of Kevin Rudd in ahmedabad, help the poor Indian students in Australia? If Harbhajan and Hayden have an on-field spat we burn Ponting's photo in Bhopal... Somehow an onfield exchange turns into a racial debate (Symonds is also to blame for it) and suddenly the whole country bursts into tears alleging that the mean Aussies are bullying us...and everyone from Gandhi to Subhash chandra bose is invoked in the ensuing debate. We take the moral high ground on every issue... I remember a certain leading advertising guru chastising the Indian high comissioner to Australia on national television for 'not leading the students in a procession through the streets of melbourne herself'. He was also berating the Australian high comissioner to India by saying that Indians should teach the Australians a lesson by wielding our 'Newly acquired Economic strength against them (How the hell are we suppossed to do that i dont know)... Inane activism, and comic martyrhood :) Mind you we should do everything to protect our people in other nations, but we need to take concrete 'real' steps to make our people feel safe. Stupid activism and idiotic martyrs can and will achieve nothing, except a wastage a of public space, time and money. And before we cry foul about racism, lets clean up the mess in our own country... The stupid physical violence aimed at pushing north indians out of maharashtra was very racist. The damage it did to the public psyche was very real... we chose to do nothing about that, and i came across a great number of poeple across all the economic strata secretly condoning the move... need i say more? The horrible rapes and the robberies that foreigners face in all states of India is as bad as what our students face in Australia,... i remember the case of this particular British girl in goa, she was raped and killed, the police couldnt have been more unhelpful... the matter was closed after inconclusive forensic examination... Arent foreigners targetted because they look and behave different from 'us'... isnt this racism? The great Aryan-Dravidian North Indian/South Indian debate is also a form of racism... i mean dude!.. does it really matter if your skin is lighter than mine??? isnt it whats on the inside that counts? Whole political parties and politicians in various regions owe their existence to this debate, what a waste of time, energy and resources on something that is at best a marginal difference between the various ppl of the nation. Mr Muthalik of Sri Ram Sene said that ppl from all over the country come to mangalore to study and 'corrupt' the local girls, so he taught them a 'lesson', isnt this racism, chauvinism, regionalism and inane activism all rolled into one?? We choose to turn a blind eye to all these real issues which are singing our country's bottom, instead choosing to self righteously shout that the white man never gives us our due... I mean the British may have colonised a quarter of the land and a fifth of the world's peoples... but the sun set on the empire over 60 years ago :), shouldnt we get real and apply ourselves to our own very real problems, and forget about them ? I mean a lot of water has passed under the bridge... :-I

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sushmita — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:59:27 GMT

And M, finally -- and unfortunately for you -- I'm the world's least '-ist' person. I've seen people -- modern educated ones -- blanch when I tell them I'm fine marrying a Muslim if I love him. Boundaries -- across nationalities and religions -- just dont matter. Ultimately, it all depends on the individual. If I have a problem with a Punjabi man or a Czech man or a Russian one, it will be because as a human being he leaves much to be desired. It's not because I think any less of his country or his state or his ancestral history. I rest my case.