The Decriminalisation of IPC 377

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kshitij jain — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:03:45 GMT

The decision on 377 is shockingly retarded..Homosexuality is a mental disease and we cant digest every stupidity and weirdness in the name of championing human rights and civil liberties.It is sick and yuck it sucks.......They need a mental asylum where these homosexual can be treated nothing more..they are the rotten part of system..they need to be cut off

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K Mathur — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:17:22 GMT

I agree w Sushmita that love is a private matter between two consenting adults. I wonder though if everyone who is supporting them now would stand by them if they were attacked physically by the ones who do not think it is “natural”. What, I wonder, would we do to ensure that the criminal justice system comes down hard on these gay and lesbian ‘bashers’.

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Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:52:29 GMT

Wonder where you are coming from . Just because it is not against the law to be gay , does not mean that everyone would become gay . What an idiotic stance ! Just because it is not against the law to wear mini skirts in Bangalore , does everyone go about wearing mini skirts in Bangalore ? Go and get a good nights sleep .

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saiyam chowdhry — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:22:10 GMT

@LUNATIC WOMEN(SUSH or watever)......as we are getting more and more "MODERN N PROGRESSIVE" we are inching towards are nadir.Revoking section 377 (in arvind adiga's words) HA what a f****** JOKE.Can to gays reproduce?HYPOTHETICALLY if all men in this world become gays humanity will come to a grinding halt (wdnt it?) .THEN tell me miss is it not a menace? Does it not have a potential to jeopardize human existence? should it not be spoken in the same breath as GLOBAL WARMING!!! Speaking more "rationally" people look at it as a subvertive agent because it is derogatory to our social structure.we need not import this cultural indebtedness from the west!! Delhi high court may revoke section 377 (courtesy UTOPIAN jurisprudence) but it cant shove its utopianism on people. i hope sanity prevails and the damage is controlled. ONE UP!!!

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Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:37:29 GMT

Right again , First , I never cussed at you . You imply that I have poor communication ability ? ha ha . You read my posts didn’t you ? Any sane person would think twice before he came up with that just because he got emotional . Why are you using the same words I used ? Read my posts ? ha ha . I know what you said . I was asking you what would you do in case the thing with the MPs and the MLAs did not work . You are the one who has to read my questions properly . Killing an animal for food is not considered unnatural . However bestiality is considered unnatural and also there is no consent . In gay sex, it may be considered unnatural ( I already told you that I thought it was unnatural too ) but there is consent . How do you know what we will endorse in the future ? Are you some kind of a soothsayer ? Well , you have a bad example with regards to cocaine . Cocaine does hurt people because many addicts create problems in the society because they are intoxicated and some even steal for money so that they can buy more dope Man , your reasoning is just based on some stupid morals that you have created.

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RightAgain — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:06:44 GMT

M: Your arguments hold no water. This is not about mutual consent - it is about VALUES. It is about right and wrong. You may not have noticed but we do a lot of things to animals without bothering with their consent - eat them, wear their skin, domesticate them, blah, blah. If we go down the road that you and your liberal friends are touting as the modern way then there is no doubt that you will also endorse bestiality one day because some minority group of people will claim that they are born that way. Please dont ask me now why bestiality is bad if it doesnt hurt me!

As a citizen i am interested in a lot of things which do not hurt me directly but which affect the society that I live in. Just 1 example: I dont inject cocaine and it does not hurt me directly if others inject cocaine - but yet I will object to cocaine being legitimize

I already told you what we are doing about it: we are challenging the high court judgement in the supreme court and if that fails then we will lobby our MPs and MLAs to change the law or even the constitution. Read my posts carefully and dont ask the same questions again. Also stop using foul language in a public forum : it shows poor communication ability.

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Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:26:31 GMT

Right again , This is a forum which is open to debate . Sometimes , debates are not about proving who is right or wrong . It is about driving home your point whether the other side believes it or not . You keep saying that let the people decide yet you imply that gay sex is against nature . You seem to be one of those who think legalizing gay sex is wrong . Well , as long as they do not hurt you , just what is your problem ?

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Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:25:34 GMT

Sri , I echo you on this . I mean many religious leaders are nothing but opportunists and in short assholes. They use religion as a tool to manipulate people and sadly , there are so many idiots who drop everything and follow them . By the way , I wonder what is so great about our culture . If our culture was so great, we would not still be a third world country where it still takes 12 hours to cover a distance of 400kms and yet we keep comparing ourselves with China . Oh by the way , before anyone gets emotional , I am no India basher ( just read my posts ) but I do accept the truth

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Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:21:12 GMT

Right again , Did you even read what I typed before ? Did I not tell you why bestiality could not be legalized . There was something missing . Consent . In gay sex, consent is not missing . So , you or your holier than thou brigade has no right to tell anyone what he or she is supposed to do as long as it does not prick your posteriors . Religions ? Religion is the main cause of trouble in this world . Mind you . I am religious too but keep religion out of this . You keep on saying "we do not accept this" . What are you going to do about all of this in case the judgment still holds? You did not answer that till now .

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Sri — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:51:01 GMT

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=5015 Most of the world is moving on and realising a persons sexuality shouldn't define or discrimate against them. That is true for religious countries like Brazil, Poland (Catholic), Israel and not-so-religious like China. It's time Indians accept it, instead of constantly harping on our "culture" and listening to stodgy dinsoaurs generally known as religious leaders!

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RK — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:36:21 GMT

@RightAgain,M,Sush:Lets agree to disagree.Different people different opinion...the debate will still remain.I think people should be free to decide what they want to do.We should not have any law, any constitution, judicial system, nothing..let the people decide what is right and dont tell me about the wrong cos what I say wrong may be right for somebody else..lets make everyone free to live their own life.Sorry..we can not ..perhaps we could have done it if we would have directly come from nothing without spending 9 months in the womb of our mothers.I would just like to tell you there is a natural process and we should not try to disturb it.I know we are the most brainy creature in the world, highly educated and what not....still then the nature has its own rules and ironically we can not change that.

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RightAgain — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:50:49 GMT

M, Sushmita: There is no "gay right" to protect; it is a deviant behaviour which we do not want to legitimize. We also do not want to legitimize bestiality or other such deviant behaviours just because some people are born with such desires and cant help themselves. Govt cannot pass laws that go against all the major religions of our country and which is opposed by an overwhelming majority of the population just to appease some left wing liberal extremists. What the Delhi High Court did was the worst form of judicial activism where they ignored the will of the people and interpreted our constitution the way they wanted. We do not accept this and we are using every legal & political means to fight this.

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sushmita — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:15:06 GMT

RightAgain: You said it, India is a democracy. In a democracy, even the minorities have to be protected. That's why gay rights are so important. If prejudices prevail, we have no right to proudly state: "We are a democracy." Let's just say we are right-wing authoritarian.

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Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:48:38 GMT

That is why I asked you how you would counter this issue in case gays were allowed to be gays . If it was left to the opinion of the masses , the Delhi high court would not have passed such a judgment . The opinion of the majority counts in India eh . Oh , that is why we have one of the worst living standards in the world ( overall ) Come on , Get real .

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RightAgain — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:45:15 GMT

M: Hindustan is a democracy and the majority opinion counts. Come here and talk to people on the road or in homes or in churches or temples or gurudwaras about this issue. Talk to god fearing people in the villages. Then you will understand the difference between you urban intellectuals with your fancy degrees and opinions and the rest of us. We will listen to our elders and our priests and we will not allow this abomination in our land.