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Expats say the darndest things

Melissa A. Bell - Monday, April 27, 2009 6:12 PM

This may come as a surprise to people, but I don’t actually like to go out, especially to cocktail parties where I don’t know many people. I always wind up talking to the one person at the entire party who either wants to tell me the entire saga of his blighted love affair that ended ten years ago or the girl who really thinks the guy likes her—right? he does, right?—even though he hasn’t called in a week. 

Despite this aversion to public gatherings, I wound up on two consecutive weekends at two expat parties. I started to think that perhaps it wasn’t that I disliked going out—I just hate going to expat parties. Because expats say the darndest things.  Especially new kids to town.  As an old timer—all of three years now—I saw it fit to write a small primer on what not to say to help all the wayward folks making their way to the balmy shores of India.

(As a small tangent: Have you noticed how many foreigners are flocking here?  I know, I know. Everyone says that every year. But in the last couple months alone, I feel this place has been inundated with folks fleeing the recessions at home, no longer searching for the spiritual India, but simply the cold hard successful India.)

My token disclaimer: Of course, I’ve said all these things at one time or another (except for the pajama pants; I wouldn’t be caught dead in those). I’m trying to help you learn from my mistakes and, yes, I am generalizing as a crude attempt at humor. I am sure you are all beautiful, good people. And I believe the cross pollination of ideas that we bring with us and that we take away is invaluable to India and to the countries we return to. But sometimes you act like ninnies.

"Oh my god! You’re from New Jersey!  And I’m from California!  That means we’re probably going to have so much in common and be best friends forever.  I am SO excited to have met you!”

Just because my ancestors and your ancestors moved to a similar country years ago, and then we’ve both decided to move to this country does not mean that we have anything else in common. There is no way you would be friends with me back home—I’m a dork who loves Jane Austen. I’m sorry to say I don’t think I’d be friends with you either—you like going to Urban Pind and talking about football. It's just not going to work.

I love how you greet me so gleefully as we pass each other on the street. I almost feel like I’m running into a long lost friend: “Hello, there!” But then I realize we’ve never met. You’re just amazed to see another white American traipsing through Defense Colony market. Trust me, there are plenty of white Americans in Defense Colony. It’s more embarrassing that we’re both here than anything else; best pretend we just don’t see each other.

"I love my pajama pants.”

Where do you even find those pajama pants?  And why do you think that’s the appropriate attire for this country?  Have you ever seen a single Indian out of the width and breadth of this country wearing those ridiculous things?

Also, even if everyone in the world was wearing them here, do you realize that you look like MC Hammer in them? They are not flattering!  You are a pretty girl wearing parachute pants!  It’s just wrong!

"It is so dusty here!” 

Or insert “smells so bad”, “so hot”, or “so loud”. Yes, we’ve heard the honking. We know about the certain corners that stand in as urinals. We dust our houses too. We live in a tropical country that has 600 million people below the poverty line. There are going to be smelly street corners and loud traffic noises and dusty, hot days. Get over it.

Okay, it is fine to mention this once or twice. It is 42 degrees outside. And that corner does smell really bad, especially in the 42-degree heat. But if your entire Indian experience can be summed up with the above sentence, you need to go back home.

"Isn’t the poverty just so heart breaking? It’s so hard to pass the street kids every day. I just wish I could be doing more. Could I get another glass of that Rs1,000 wine, please?”

By all means, have that glass of wine. I wouldn’t begrudge a person a drink ever. And by all means, be struck by the need to help others less fortunate than yourself. But simply talking about how sad the situation is does not in fact help anyone. Unless you are spending your entire day slaving away at Mother Teresea’s orphanage, find another topic.

Also, that’s very sweet that you choose certain street kids to give biscuits and water to. But that is not enough. Nor is paying your servants extra. Find a charity. Donate your time. At the very least, give some of your old clothing to Goonj.

"Is Rs3,000 enough to pay the ayah?”

As a friend so brilliantly put it, if you think entrusting your child’s growth, health and happiness to someone for the price of a dinner for one at the Imperial, then by all means.

You’re going to pay a bit extra than locals do. But if you’re earning more than 80 percent of the population, don’t you think you should?

"I just can’t stand how much the men stare here.”

You are eight Norwegian blond women in an ambassador in tube tops and black skirts. It’s not quite the most common sight on the block. Even I’m going to stare at you.

Ah, heck, it’s not the skirt. If you’re in a salwar kameeze, men are gonna stare. So are women. And children. People stare here! It’s a country that loves other people’s business. Get over it. Enjoy it, in fact. People are curious about you. You’re curious about them. Stare back.

"Yes, of course, I bathed my baby in Evian. Just for the first six months. Its immune system is from the mother. I couldn’t take the risk.”

I love how much you care about your child. But, honestly, that is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard a person do. And I will continue to make fun of you for it until your child is old, healthy and gray.

"I have a ton of local friends.”

Your one token Indian friend does not mean that you’re getting to know the country. And Americans with Indian parents definitely do not count as token Indian friends.

And just as a tip, traveling through the city in a pack of ten to fifteen expats will not encourage local friendships to flourish. Delhiites, especially, have friendships that go back to kindergarten. There is no reason for them to try to make friends with an entire herd of strangers. And if you're going to "Expat night" at a bar, seriously? That's not really branching out, folks.

Just to ensure I wouldn’t let my people off easy, I asked my token Indian friend to come up with a few more:

Squeeze the pennies at a bargain shop when the Rs 20 they saved after twenty minute haggle means peanuts to them – perhaps just to get the kick of a bargain. (This is very true, it pisses me off no less when I see dollar-earning people trying to haggle for 20 rupees).

Explain the visiting country’s economic and social situation (or the lack of it) in twenty minutes flat quoting this fabulous book that another expat wrote ten years back.

Pass that smug smile while being ushered in the ‘white only’ lines in hotels and other queues.

Not having the smug smile but instead feel a gentle guilt announcing to the hassled crowd of skins in the queue “Sorry foreign tourists; sorry could you let us pass.”

Back from visiting the tigers in a national park and hearing about the tiger deaths, talking about how sad it is that India is unable to protect its magnificent beasts.

“The palace was beautiful if only they could restrict the number of people coming in everyday it would be so much better an experience.”

They learn to say "chai" and "namaste" and beam when equally irritating Indians find their accent so cute.

“Do you really think I could attend a true Indian wedding when am there?” And once in India, put on the mehndi, do a silly dance, laugh to glory, and later write a blog post on the silliness of it all.

Expats think going to Neemrana is the ultimate Indian experience ever. They come back gushing that they stayed two nights in an Indian village when all they saw of that village was half a kilometer of bumpy stretch through dark tinted glasses of a chilled SUV.

I came here to find myself. This country is so spiritual. Or any variation thereof.

“Reading Amartya Sen made me realize how beautiful this country is really.”

What else we got? And, guys, try to not be TOO mean.

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From Ram N

April 28, 2009 9:11 AM
And to add ..."To remind most of us, how spicy & hot the Indian food is" or "How beautiful, colourful the Indians are & their lifestyles are, smirk"

From aditya

April 28, 2009 10:40 AM
"(As a small tangent: Have you noticed how many foreigners are flocking here? I know, I know. Everyone says that every year. But in the last couple months alone, I feel this place has been inundated with folks fleeing the recessions at home, no longer searching for the spiritual India, but simply the cold hard successful India.)" hmmm.... Ms. Bell - didn't i warn of this impending deluge?!!! great blog this time, one of your best - and dare i say behenji, you have gone native!!! welcome! welcome!! welcome!!!

From kaisen

April 28, 2009 11:21 AM
Really funny Melissa. Every summer when I'm in mumbai I say "do you see how many foreigners there are in India now" While in Los Angeles, I run across fellow indians who try to find a link with me somehow and I've been guilty of the same. I guess it's a human tendency to find something in common in people we meet.

From Melissa A. Bell

April 28, 2009 2:59 PM
@Ram Yes, good ones, but the food IS so hot and spicy! And @aditya, thank you! But I still hate the hot and spicy food. @kaisen, I know, I know. Birds of a feather and all that. In another total tangent, do you ever notice how trios of girls in LA wear the exact same outfit? They don't plan it, I hope. But they always have some variation of the exact same outfit. This one has camo shorts, that one a camo shirt, and the third a camo bag. Or one has dark tights and a dress. Another a different shade of dark tights and shorts and the third another shade of dark tights and a skirt. Okay, those are really bad examples, but I swear once you start noticing it happens all the time. And always in groups of three girls.

From Jonathan Sidhu

April 28, 2009 4:00 PM
Absolutely brilliant post here, Melissa. I've been guilty of most of the above except for the pajama thing (and if I could find that much Evian I'd probably bathe in it as well). I also just need to add that the Rs 1,000 glass of wine was good. One more quote (again, normally said while sipping aforementioned glass of wine): " I want to see the real India." (because flaming shots at Turquoise Cottage isn't real enough for you). This is normally followed with plans to eat lunch at the parantha-walle gully in Chandni Chowk.

From aditya

April 28, 2009 5:14 PM
@ Jonathan: a glass of wine @ 1000 buckeroos better be very good..! for a real local lunch (but south indian) - head for Andhra Bhawan! but it's not for the faint hearted or Melissa as apparently she does not enjoy hot and spicy food!

From kaisen

April 28, 2009 10:40 PM
@Melisaa- yup,on the weekend in westwood I saw a bunch of girls in tiny shorts and high heels.Also,a trio of girls in black and white- I thought they were a church group :-). But,I have my onw shame to confess,I bought the pajama pants but never wore them cuz I didn't think I could pull them off. Also,all my american friends want to go to India with me and attend a typical Indian wedding and keep egging me on to get married for their selfish motives :-) Another american friend shaved with bottled water while in India :-) Plus,I know w a whole bunch of ABCDs who talk about how everything smells of faecal matter in India- that got me a little mad but I had to ignore it. @Jonathan- OOh, I want to do flaming shots. @Aditya,I was in Delhi two years ago and could not find hot and spicy food :-( I love hot and spicy.This summer in bombay, mom has promised to whip up some spicy delicacies for me.

From Melissa A. Bell

April 28, 2009 11:42 PM

@kaisen NO ONE can pull off the pajama pants. Many a pretty girl has been blighted by those things. And many a pretty boy. They don't work, so I'm so glad you never tried. And I love the church group motif! When you come back to Bombay we can try it. @Jonathan, I've never had the flaming shots, but I am ashamed to admit I did eat (drink?) those horrible vodka golgappas at Punjabi by Nature the first week I arrived in town. Friends shouldn't let friends eat vodka golgappas. @aditya my friends just ate at Andhra Bhawani today and they made it very clear I wasn't invited. I'm going to assume it was because they knew I didn't like hot spicy food and were looking out for my best interests.  Good friends.

From Rose

April 29, 2009 11:06 AM
Interesting as ever.. i laughed my hat off... i observed this at a couple of after work parties...but the expat wives are even more hilarious..

From janus singh

April 29, 2009 7:03 PM
hey in response to the blog above and the one before 'will you ride me aka dating tips...' I am brown. Am male. and pretend usually to know how browns are with the whites of the other gender. I also pretend am not part of that brown brigade (and am not guessing what percentage of total brown is this brigade) that thinks whites are easy. White females all the more so. So. I go to a white country. It’s beautiful. Elegant, polished, winters, snow clad in parts. Orderly, easy accessible and all those words browns come up with in awe of a new white land. Oh no don’t get me wrong, I miss the chaos and the masala. I don’t pick up the accent. But I like it there. It’s a long stay. A couple of months. Am alone in a small group of men and women on the project. Project demands we meet many more at work. White yellow black brown -men and women. First week is the excitement of a new place. A new address, finding the grocer the new phone card the new project elements. Then first week novelty is off. Except the novelty of new women all around. Holy my mother cow! My eyes wont stay off. White. And women. They are pretty. They are slim taller, have a gait. Legs longer in my head than they actually are. They dress up they don’t wear clothes. They are not found in ‘female ghettos’. They are anywhere. Oomph all over. Hours of smoking spent ogling at women passing by. And chatting those I came in touch with. Did I make an extra effort to seek out the women. No. But I liked it when the brown white yellow black were women. Now I am getting friendly with a few. A drink or a chat. Groups alone friends some some not. Casual conversations banter at times. Point is I am looking at them. All the time. And then a month down I tell myself. Its just me alone single looking at them. Flip. No you are looking at white women and finding each of them pretty. Or hot. Or beautiful. Or all of that. Each and everyone. Not really think of it that one I saw was damn fat and ugly. Right even her you spent five second glance on. Oh shut up. I aint got that flu. I don’t have the white female skin is yum syndrome. I don’t go out and touch their breasts or rub their asses. I don’t period. Yeah but baby you are right now thinking are they different. Oh shut up. I aint thinking if they are easy. Am thinking if they are fun. Right you telling yourself that? They are just, well different. Right. Its just the exotica value. Right, that’s why you look at the eastern European chicks and oh I know they are finally chiseled but don’t you darling? That is just because they are better looking. Right. Until you discover that the EE ladies here have more disposable money in their tiny purse than in your enire bank savings and they aren’t, well as you may have thought, cheap. Shut the fuck up, I aint thinking no such thing. Yeah honey, you haven’t heard the stories of the EE gals in India. Well am educated enough to distinguish between stereotypes and reality. Damn you are one fine brain but darling. Listen buddy, I distinguish between social conditioning and sexual perversion. I know baby we should. Don’t patronize me, I get attacked by stereotypes all the time I absorb it too but I learn to discern. Ooh I like that word, its so nice on the tongue. Shut the hell up and listen, yes so I have once a while looked at a EE woman and asked is she easy but then I correct myself and know I am falling for it. Oh darling your head must spin when you do that – watch yourself think, what a shake that must be. Look dammit you don’t wanna listen lets not talk. Babes I am all ears sorry if I offended you. You know you are just so fucking sure am another brown pervert there aint no use talking to you. But for the record I aint.

From Melissa A. Bell

April 29, 2009 7:15 PM
@Janus I am about 98% sure I don't know what you are saying, but I definitely know I like it. I like this line best: "Oh darling your head must spin when you do that – watch yourself think, what a shake that must be." @Rose, thanks!

From Rahul

April 29, 2009 9:45 PM
Hahaha! Janus, good one! Thinks some people have problems: they mix mad Indians with normal Indians and tell us that every normal Indian is a mad Indian and every mad Indian is almost a normal Indian. Melissa, so just because you think you landed earlier than the others, you have the right to tell 'them' how they should behave or wear or talk or drink, huh? Like those Irish immigrants who landed early on east coast wanting to prevent further immigrants from Italy and east Europe thinking America only belonged to "them" since they conquered the land before them? Whats the harm if one doesn't wanna mingle with the locals or don't wanna donate to a charity? It's ones' pejorative, right? I wonder what purpose you are serving by mingling with the natives, since one of your previous posts suggests you are rather good at mindless generalizing of your post's subjects. Who knows you might be giving out the same impression of Indians in general to others. I've seen hundreds who work in these so called charitable jobs. In the day they do supposed charity in salwar kameez, by the night they are dancing semi-nude, drinking gallons at a night club. Give the ones who don't do these so called charitable jobs some credit. Don't you think everyone is entitled to do their bit their way? At least they are who they are - on the surface and on the inside. And were you not telling people until a few months back that it's actually hip to wear ripped worn out jeans to your workplace. Bit ninnish yourself perhaps? And, by the way, who gave you the right to pass a judgment? Like you think you gonna frame the guidelines that others would or should follow? Just an imaginary space on a bulky little device that opens and shuts like a notebook inviting you to use your fingers on it like a typewriter and the one which is redundant once there is nothing called electricity. Like this one post gonna wash all of your previous sins? Desperate effort to get into the good books, hardly any merit.

From Melissa A. Bell

April 30, 2009 12:21 AM
Ah @Rahul, ripped jeans are far more fashionable than the pajama pants! (My, my. Aren't you paying close attention.) And, yes, you hit the nail on the head: I do feel superior to every expat who has followed in my footsteps, even if they have no idea who I am. They came after me, hence I win. And this is by no means any attempt to wash away my previous sins for which I've asked no absolution. I plan to continue meaningless generalizations of all people for as long as the electricity lasts.

From Anand

April 30, 2009 8:39 AM
@Janus: That was the most schizophrenic original post I have ever read. Amazing stuff...loved it even though - like Melissa - I did not understand 98% of it.

From Anand

April 30, 2009 8:41 AM
@Rahul: Light le...you seem to have gotten yourself all worked up over a harmless fun post here

From janus singh

April 30, 2009 9:54 AM
just woken up to realise nobody understands me. there is too much smoke in my room err head. @rahul: i love you as much as i love my mom. you make me believe i said things neither of the two inside my head ever said in the original post. anand: dont let the schizophrenia take the focus away from the issue at hand - which was? oh yes. sorry just the rum from yesterday...mm (miss melissa) correct me if i am wrong. its about what brown ants do with white ants and vice(s) versa. trouble with ants is, they live, the common ones at least, i can get the latin name if you want later, in colonies. in our brown ant colony, here is a fact not a two-faced opinion from a double headed me-ant, the consumption of fair and lovely and all those other 'whitener' creams (and i am not talking about distemper on the walls or plastic paint emulsions) is one of the highest per capita in the world. male and female ants all love the white cream. doesnt mean brown ants love white ants. they just love the pigment or the lack of it. i want someone here to explain the white cream syndrome to me. till then i am not allowing anyone to tell me that me-1 or me-2 are either dirty or pervert. or not. or well anything that takes effort to be.

From Pados ki Aunty

April 30, 2009 10:07 AM
@ Janus: Dekhiye, aisa hai jee. Ye Fair and Lovely waley issue pe hai jo kee mujhey lagta hai bahut important issue hai. Meri 21 saal kee ek beti hai jiski chaar saal se shaadi nahee ho rahee hai. Shaadi.com pe aat profile daal chuki hoon alag alag pose me. Haan thori see kaali hai jisko hum pyar se saawli boltey hain. Mere pati ki 30% tankha ab fair and lovely me kharch hotee hai. Wo jo TV pe ads nahee aatey? Peechhley saal wo beaty clinic bhee gayee thee safed honey. Uska byaj hum abhee tak de rahey hain. Itna kee dahej ke paisey nahee bachey ab. Aap do hai ya ek haumey nahee pata. Kya aal humaarey beti se shaadi karogey???

From Rose

April 30, 2009 12:01 PM
@melissa- keep the free, fun blog on!!dont get disheartened by comments!!ur blog is fresh n absolutely on t face..exc to read+ realistic!!guess il join u n anand in not understanding 98% of t comment!! @rahul- its a blog..take it in the right spirit

From Melissa A. Bell

April 30, 2009 2:38 PM
Thank you so much @Rose! Don't tell anyone, but I've grown to love this thing. It looks like I'm working, when I'm really just bombastically ranting. So long as my editors don't catch on, I'm having a fine old time. And it's nice to know I'm not pissing everyone off ;) @janus on further reflection, I think what you're saying is that brown ants who eat mango rinds all day, upon coming across two-day-old cat food, are inevitably excited by the strange and unique delicacy. some ants will beeline (too many bug puns?) for the cat food and happily dance around it for awhile. while others will turn up their antennae and return to the mango rinds. as for why ants use face cream, I'm at a loss.

From Anchal

April 30, 2009 2:39 PM
@Rahul - Thank god you said it. @Rose - Why do the 'readers' have to come to the rescue of bloggers in here, I do not understand. Nobody is blogging because of your thumbs up, nobody will stop blogging because of Rahul's thumbs down. @Mellisa - I know its all in the name of 'fun' (i am told that often in face of criticism, as apparently that implies 'no criticism allowed, only 'i agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee'), however, i think we like it when the whites act in the way they do, because they are foreign to the culture/economy/social setups/ways of living and everything in here, and say these things out of ignorance. I dont quiet understand what you try to indicate. They will complain about dirt, it is difficult to internalize the weather conditions, even if you have read/heard about it. They may find pyjama pants fancy, and hence wear it, who are you to decide they look funny. I find our normal salwars and T-shirts as an awesome combination, something I saw foreigners indulging in. There is nothing wrong with bargaining for saving 20 bucks and it IS horrible if men in here stare at you and make you uncomfortable, irrespective of the fact you are foreigner or not. I am sure you are aware of the various rape cases of foreigners in India, and how the defence has taken a plea, 'that they asked for it', by behaving and dressing in a certain way. Even if for fun, write responsibly.

From Melissa A. Bell

April 30, 2009 2:59 PM

@Anchal criticize away, especially if you're making insightful points. I'd much rather have this be a discussion than just me ranting into thin air. That being said, this is not a post about white people. This is expats in general. And, yes, men staring is horrible, but that doesn't change the fact that it does happen and it doesn't always happen out of some sexual urge. Just because some disgusting men have inflicted cruelty on some women, we can't assume that every man who looks at you is going to rape you. Just like those disgusting men can't assume that we're asking for it if we feel like wearing a cute skirt out at night. One thing I am extremely proud of is the expat women who have come forward in this country to admit and contest their rape. I really do believe their pain and humiliation at such ridiculous defense pleas smooths the path for every other woman--expat or otherwise--who may be too ashamed to come forward. And the more we keep quiet about it, the more men get away with it.

From Rose

April 30, 2009 3:27 PM
@anchal- i appreciate interesting writing n its a free platform,so i do not see how much praise or criticism affects u!!readers can express whatever opinion they feel like- u choose to criticise , i choose to appreciate..Y- simple - because it's a democratic platform!!

From Anchal

April 30, 2009 4:16 PM
@Melissa - Agree, but how/who draws a line between lustful stare/innocent stare/a whistle/ a push/ a slap and rape. Does only personal touch get objectionable? I know none of us here can answer the question, and that is why there is concept very peculiar to India called 'eve teasing' and it is a crime to indulge in it. Intention is very difficult to judge in such cases, hence all stares that make anyone uncomfortable should be condemned and no-one should be 'ok' with it because it may be innocent. I have lived in Delhi and now live in Mumbai, and my observation has been that in Mumbai women feel more safe (without going into statistics, because there may be hundreds of unreported cases) because the 'staring' bit in Mumbai is so minimal. So coming to the point in the post, it is not ok if men in here make expats/non residents (any woman, for that matter, but thats beyond the post) feel uncomfortable by staring at them in public places. @ Rose - From what I get, you asked Melissa not to care about the criticism. Appreciation with substantial input on the topic being discussed, should be appreciated, but appreciation without 'interesting writing', merely asking the blogger to discard the criticism is pretty undemocratic I guess.

From Melissa A. Bell

April 30, 2009 4:16 PM
Hear, hear @Rose!

From Anchal

April 30, 2009 4:17 PM
@Melissa - Agree, but how/who draws a line between lustful stare/innocent stare/a whistle/ a push/ a slap and rape. Does only personal touch get objectionable? I know none of us here can answer the question, and that is why there is concept very peculiar to India called 'eve teasing' and it is a crime to indulge in it. Intention is very difficult to judge in such cases, hence all stares that make anyone uncomfortable should be condemned and no-one should be 'ok' with it because it may be innocent. I have lived in Delhi and now live in Mumbai, and my observation has been that in Mumbai women feel more safe (without going into statistics, because there may be hundreds of unreported cases) because the 'staring' bit in Mumbai is so minimal. So coming to the point in the post, it is not ok if men in here make expats/non residents (any woman, for that matter, but thats beyond the post) feel uncomfortable by staring at them in public places. @ Rose - From what I get, you asked Melissa not to care about the criticism. Appreciation with substantial input on the topic being discussed, should be appreciated, but appreciation without 'interesting writing', merely asking the blogger to discard the criticism is pretty undemocratic I guess.

From MS

April 30, 2009 4:18 PM
@janus. Good real post. love the way you spoke in two person. oh yes, being brown and male , and let me say, i get everything you said. and EE , i got lucky there! Singular highlight : "They dress up they don’t wear clothes." Yes i used the F&L cream while playing hockey in plains of punjab, the then cheapest Sun block available.

From Melissa A. Bell

April 30, 2009 4:57 PM
Sigh. I think @janus should take over writing for me from now on. @Anchal, in Rose's defense, I think she was just giving me a bit of positive encouragement to keep writing, which is always appreciated. It doesn't look to me like there was anything about disregarding criticism--just to keep plugging at it. As for the men staring, I think you're right: it is a slippery slope. But I want to argue that there's a danger in taking away people's right to look. I hate places where I can't look people in the eye. I love to look at people. I don't want to have to turn my eyes away from something the piques my curiosity. I also really do think it's something cultural in India. People are in people's business here far more than in places like New York where we all try to pretend the other person on the street doesn't exist. Whether one way is better than the other, I'll leave to better minds than mine to debate. But I would imagine that occasionally people new to the city may find more discomfort in some of the stares than they necessarily should.

From Response responsible

April 30, 2009 4:58 PM
There is nothing that sours my mood than comments on blogs from personally abusive, self-righteous pundits. Resposible blogging is necessary, so is responsible commenting. I have been following this blog regularly and all I have to say is the Ms Bell has been more than graceful in accepting all sorts of brickbats. At Anchal, "They may find pyjama pants fancy, and hence wear it, who are you to decide they look funny." This blog isn't and will not be a bible for how expats should behave in India or elsewhere. It is a list of observations and is her own conclusions. Don't miss the disclaimer that it is a generalisation as a crude attempt at humour. If the blogger can be dismissive about herself, others can take it with a pinch of salt, in my opinion. It is a blog in a hard day's work for god's sake! Read it, laugh it off, get on with your work. Noone is trying to change anyone's behaviour here or opinion. It is a healthy debate. Think, argue your lungs out. Great! @ Mel: There is worldwide debate on what is responsible commenting. Readers are not a figment of anyone's imagination or a floating apparition. They have as much responsibility as you do. Couple of links everyone might enjoy: http://www.responsiblecommenting.com/ http://voice4india.wordpress.com/responsible-commenting/ Cheers to everybody. Have a great weekend. PS: BTW, I wear pajama pants :)

From janus singh

April 30, 2009 5:21 PM
@mm: whats you saying! even me-1 and me-2 put together and they never get together wont do it. am i freaking mad or am the other i freaking mad. both of us like our status: voyeurs. ocassional pricks and ramblerants, then back to the rum bottle. you mm, and god i want to say i am not flirting on the edge of praising you here but i cant decide which one of me-1 or me-2 says i am, but mm you, are the motherhold of this madness. sorry all rest i love you all, all of me do, but mm you gave birth to it and all the ants that came crawling out of the wood to gnaw at it. its now a work of art and you installed it. if i was the curator or installer or whatever i would do this: http://www.centrepompidou.fr/Pompidou/Communication.nsf/docs/ID2933FED38991723EC12575630037E1B7/$File/20090220-DP-videsEN.pdf you do well what you do. god we are both so exhausted about sending this panzy softy but my hand's on the mouse and me-1 and me-2 agree, send it.

From janus singh

April 30, 2009 5:52 PM
she is trying to understand you, she is trying to help you explain you. who asked her? behave, act responsibly, she is being generous. no she is being rude. mate you got your head screwed. listen for this once, right so i use skin whiteners and i stare at EE women till they transmute under my gaze i am not a freak its normal behaviour. is it. yes it is. i stare i dont stand in front of one and ask her to be my two hour friend. why dont you. what the hell do you mean why dont i, i dont coz i am not like them brown brigade i know where to draw a line. sweetheart dont get agitated with that small overheated ram under your skull but tell me just coz you think and not do what hte brigade does it makes you mmmm crazy or worse an introver pervert. sweetheart me one more time i shall chop your our head off, i dont offend or intrude in the white female's space, i do what i do in my head. baby then it must be those eyes of yours, they tell the outsider what a muck you are inside even before you decide you wont let anyone know the shit you are boiling, such lovely brown big fucking staring glaring stripping eyes of yours, baby i wanna kiss them. you know what you are just a couchbrain you can cut me into analytical pieces and i dont care i know am clean. as clean as that F&L for men honeypunch? huh? ooo baby you make my heart melt when you say huh with those lips gently parted and that F&L cream melting off your cheeks down that firm chin line slow in that gluemuck way that nothing else can. i dont do it for anyone but myself so shut up and stick to the topic on the blog, have you in the f noticed no one understands us anyway? darling you better be doing that cream for no one but yourself, and me, coz i love it, the world shall never understand us, but you and me, baby we are cream and honey together, white whipped cream and honey.

From Melissa A. Bell

April 30, 2009 6:22 PM
@Response responsbile Wow! Lovely post. Thank you and I think you're links are brilliant. To tell you the truth, I never really thought about the responsibility of commenting. I work on the blog for an hour or two and then just rip off a comment in a minute. It's a good reminder that they become part of the permanent record. Thanks for the insight. It almost makes up for the pajama pants! (Okay, fine, I'm harping on about the things since I'm secretly intimidated by people who wear them).

From Rahul

April 30, 2009 7:37 PM
RR or whatever your name is: How about I put a disclaimer here and then abuse you left right and centre? I'm damn sure you gonna enjoy the beating in a masochist sense. Mate the technique us called attitude correction and you bet we know how to do it! Anchal: There's hardly any thought process involved in this blog that it might warrant a serious discussion. From the last few posts that I have seen the blog, she manages to get a set of no-brainers like herself to comment. If you see, noone has made a single comment of merit. Most of them seem like sloshed 8th graders. It's not even funny (to have fun). Now you know the the perils of having economy class? On another thought, I don't think the recession is attracting any good talent from the US to India at all. The ones with real talent are staying back, they know it's a phase and once it's over, they are in for a treat. And well, a minion here will be a minion there, there's hardly any chance of that being changing.

From RR

April 30, 2009 8:23 PM
"There's hardly any thought process involved in this blog that it might warrant a serious discussion. From the last few posts that I have seen the blog, she manages to get a set of no-brainers like herself to comment." With 543 words posted by Rahul himself and with loyal frequency. Not a minuscule contribution at all. Well, more the minions, the better it is! "If you see, noone has made a single comment of merit." I assume that includes everyone. I rest my case. About recession, sadly not. In fact all the want-to-be-in-phoren-country morons, who India was frankly, glad to be rid of, are coming back. What a tragedy.

From Rahul

April 30, 2009 9:03 PM
Oh really RR? That the reason why every bank these have a dedicated NRI section these days? Think they should get rid of these department since all the NRIs are coming back? And why does this want-to-be-in-phoren-country morons reminds me of someone from this blog? Should we call them pseudo expats?

From Shoba Narayan

April 30, 2009 9:18 PM
Great post, Melissa. Thanks for the Goonj plug. I am a big fan too.

From Anurag

May 1, 2009 11:28 AM
Thanks Ms. Melissa for such a nice blog...it is the best of all from you...just visit Mcleodganj also to find another reason why so many foreigners are in India visiting all over the year...

From janus singh

May 1, 2009 1:32 PM
last evening i took to the hills. both of me. temperatures were soaring in the plains, took to the ghats. rahul, it was calm there. mm it was cool. rr it was so nice, ms you should have come along, anchal rose you too. sat under a tree and thought. it takes me so much to start thinking. i am going to blog. i dislike to be a member of a party where someone else is getting bashed up. and i cant even understand why. i mean recession is important but NRI deposit schemes on expat blogs? we discussed it between ourselves. i have what do they call it vanvasi no pravasi stats on NRIs. i have fourth quarter results on NRI deposits both of us put them together. ruggernut nothing in them tells me about brown ants. now rr you have made two interventions in this UN debate on F&L cream. three! learn to count. yeah three ok let me go on, rahul, i like your name but i think you took it well, i mean not the name, but the constructive elements of rr's comments. you took them in and you took them deep. rahul, dont throw them out again. i like you. so do i. oh shut up when i say i i mean both of us. oh sorry. so i was saying rahul i like you a lot, your charge of emotion is batterfree, its so pure. you write what your heart tells you to. but honey werent we supposed to ask why his heart feels so? listen i told you under the tree its for him to tell himself. but he is not like you and me, he is not two, he cant talk to himself. everyone can you know you ass. yes but babes you and i have a relation, he am not sure of. can we leave him alone, this is not about him. ok if you say so then dont mention his name and all that nonsense about you liking him for his heartfelt conditions. fine. fine. listen i know its been bad three days between us we have never blogged or commented together so this is a bit new, dont be like this with me. alright lets not fight. yippeee, now what i was saying to rest of you before we got a bit mmm mashed in with ourselves, i like this place, its when i am not selling dirt dud shares or gutterworth mutual funds to certain vulnerable sections and communities in this society i like sitting on this box just above submit form, mm can you btw ask them to make that button say something else, seems like i am asking you to upload me in a electronic form, i like the dance here but i hate it when the elbow room gets cramped. thats where most brains are. too much friction around there and it hurts me. dont get me wrong i like a nudge but heck i hate a shove. it throws us two apart. and i know you think we argue but we cant live apart. so honeybees and stingbees can we tango without a crash. i love the headbanggers parties but i like them real. online they just look sound smell so panzy. lets dance. me two? me-2 you too babe.

From JS

May 6, 2009 4:58 AM
"People are in people's business here far more than in places like New York where we all try to pretend the other person on the street doesn't exist." Exactly, that's why 99.9% of old people in your countries end up in old age homes? delinked from their so called children/relatives leading a lonely/secluded life, like they don't even exist? Thank God, I'm not in the west. It also speaks of your ignorance of your own country - the small town America - so to speak. Where girls in mini-skirts still get stares, where pregnancies out of wedlocks are still looked down upon and where people DO put their noses in others business as much as allowed. A lot of what you call people in people's business is know here by its polite term - Care. Disagree as much as you like but a majority of us still manage to keep our relationships alive even with all the ups and downs that are part and parcel of any relationship. And the absence of a good social net does warrants such a behaviour. Some how just can't come to terms with the thought of wandering the ruins of Mesopotamia while my parents cry in the hospital bed or wait for the half yearly visit to the old age home.

From Pankaj

May 6, 2009 2:10 PM
Hey Melissa, Read your blog for the first time, but I have to say this post is something that I have always been waiting for. An expat writing about the mistakes of other expats. Pretty cool!!! I loved the part about poverty in India and the monotonous comments of other expats about the same. The part that discusses the "tons of Indian friends" is damn cool. Keep it up! Peace http://choosingmyconfessions.wordpress.com/

From June

May 6, 2009 5:43 PM
Funny funny, the observations. Here was a post i had written on how India is a country and not a cause. http://shetalkslikejune.com/?p=689

From mayank

May 8, 2009 6:24 PM
Isn't there a dengue fever stereotype as well?

From aditya

May 8, 2009 10:30 PM
doesn't anyone ever miss me? nothing beats a cold beer on a hot afternoon! this Expat has found his nirvana.... a cold beer and Andhra Bhavan for lunch....

From blrgal

May 9, 2009 10:45 AM
What a great post..I could've written this..this is *exactly* how my ABCD husband behaves on each of our trips. I am forwarding this to him. I didn't quite read all your comments in detail..but here's anoter stereotype I've noticed: Indians in America are big into philanthropy and treating everyone as equal..but that attitude changes completely when they move back to India. Suddenly, the "class" system kicks in..they think of themselves as being a cut above everyone else..

From aditya

May 10, 2009 10:15 PM
what about the swine flu... any comments Expats? or alternatively, your opinions on the ongoing Indian General Elections... its the fifth and last round of voting on wednesday and a new prime minister will be sworn in on saturday...

From aditya

May 11, 2009 10:47 AM
and hailstones the size of quail's eggs in May... Lutyen's column falling down... what's next? (Nelson's in Trafalgar Square?)

From siddharth

May 13, 2009 2:40 PM
Hi Melissa, can't read the comments properly as the last 2-3 words in each line are cut out. Request to rectify ALthough its a nice post. :)

From browser

May 15, 2009 10:54 AM
@ Siddharth, that is because you are probably using the wrong browser. Try it on Chrome or Explorer?

From Raghu

May 15, 2009 11:10 AM
Here is one that has irritated me no end but have had trouble defending. "Did you meet with your wife for just 30 minutes before you decided to marry her?" Though I explain politely that I met my wife a good three years before I popped the question, I've had to put in a disclaimer that individual results may vary :) and though India is changing, it still does happen a lot that way

From Jen

May 15, 2009 6:48 PM
With regards to the pajama pants - how about the pajama pants with big, white cross trainers. Those are fantastic...

From Puneet

May 17, 2009 4:47 AM
What the heck is 'Pajama pants' ? Pyjama (or paijama or paijama or payjama) is originally a Persian word meaning leg garment. Should we start calling a 'kurta' pajama shirt now ? I can come up with other ones- a shirt is a short kurta, trousers are a narrow pajama, mini skirt is an extra long choli, a bikini is chaddi-choli !

From Mathews

May 17, 2009 4:44 PM
What happened to this blog...why there are no updates

From Melissa A. Bell

May 17, 2009 5:33 PM

Haha!  @Puneet I'm sorry.  You're right.  I will start calling my bikini a chaddi-choli from now on.  @Mathews.  Sorry, we suck.  We'll work on it...

From aditya

May 21, 2009 12:13 AM
@ Mathews et all: for more Melissa action (also in explanation of why there are no updates), our chaddi-choli wali amrikan larki has been busy checking out the swimming pools in the city and reports on the expat show on that. happy summer simmerings to all of you!

From JS

June 19, 2009 6:31 AM
@Puneet, haven't you heard Americans are dumb??? Now come on!!!

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